mikewarot a day ago

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It's circuit bending, or Fritzing, not finding a clever exploit in DRAM. Even an ECC module isn't going to help you if it's on the CPU data bus.

I just hope we don't all end up suffering through yet another 50% slowdown in patches to the Kernel to avoid this nonsense because someone buys the BS and now it has to be "fixed", like the row hammer software fixes, instead of just fixing the dam DRAM modules, and better hardware.

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Another analogy:

It's like when a brain surgeon probes your cerebellum and suddenly you smell strawberry or hear Brahms. The surgeon certainly doesn't know what reaction you have unless you tell them.

You wouldn't go around later saying "Dr Jones made me smell strawberries, on a whim, certainly he's a G*d"

  • nwah1 a day ago

    If there is no unpredictable ASLR then in this case it is as if the surgeon knows exactly where to probe to make you smell strawberries.

captn3m0 a day ago

Some context from the author’s fedi account:

> I'm exploring this because I think it might be useful for console hacking - where you have physical access, and the ability to execute sandboxed code (say, inside a web browser)

ID: @retr0id@retr0.id (they ask not to link to their fedi instance).

sans_souse 2 days ago

This is some low level hacking right here

dan_linder a day ago

So if we don't have the addition of the antenna wire, is the usual case shielding sufficient or do we just need larger/intense pulses, more of them, or somewhere in between? is like to try this at home, but not if I have to solder a wire on the already small RAM traces.

  • wrs a day ago

    I’m not sure how you would limit the incoming interference to a single bit, unless you’re very good at beam forming antennas.

  • yonatan8070 a day ago

    If you try it on a desktop system, the RAM is likely going to be in through-hole DIMM slots, so the soldering will be a lot more managable than in a laptop

azalemeth a day ago

Yet again, I wish we all had ECC ram!

Here's the code: https://github.com/DavidBuchanan314/dram_emfi/blob/main/linu... -- the basic idea is

> Hardware setup: This time I put the "antenna" wire on DQ25, which will fault 64-bit values to +/-32MiB

> Exploit strat: We fill up as much of physical memory as possible with page tables.

> When we fault a PTE read, we have a good chance of landing on a page table, giving us R/W access to a page table from userspace.

CTDOCodebases a day ago

I remember kids using these things into Street Fighter II machines to get free credits.

ano-ther a day ago

Impressive! And a music track like that should be standard for all progress bars.